i think chuck hagel's not the person that should be advising him, when chuck hagel was one that didn't even support sanctions against iran. when it opened discussions with iran, and in his book, implies that a nuclear-armed iran would maybe be more responsible. and i just can't see that, when you see the statements made by ahmadinejad, at the united nations, about israel's merely ability to exist. >> the senate as a whole has not rejected a cabinet nominee since 1989. it was george h.w. bush's nomination of john tower. it was a secretary of defense, but these were questions of personal and ethical conduct that derailed that. before that, you had to go back to 1959 and eisenhower to find someone else. do you think the senate will actually reject hagel? >> i think it's too early to tell. so many senators that i talked to, erin, said that the hearings would be consequential, and what i heard today was a senator, a former senator, who seemed uncomfortable on that side of the table, answering questions, when in the past, he was on the other side of the table, much more comfortable, when he